Monday, May 30, 2011
Correction to Member-Member Date
Hey guys, My bad, I enter the wrong dates for the member-member and I'm sorry for the confusion. The correct dates are the 10th, 11th, and the 12th of June and we stand by those dates. Friday the 10th we'll have the special event in the club room and the start of the putting contest starting at 6 PM. The putting contest will go through Sat. Nite. Hope this clears up the confusion. Big D
Saturday, May 28, 2011
Member-Member
Hey Guys, just a reminder, the member-member is just two weeks away, so make sure you get signed up for this don't miss major. It's filling up, so don't get stuck on the waiting list. There'll be 10 divisions of 6 teams playing 5, 9 hole matches over two days.We'll have a special events get together on Friday nite. The days for this major are June 17,18, & 19. Lets get a full field for this major and have alot of fun.
Thursday, May 26, 2011
E-Mail ALERT For Blog
Hi Guys
If you're reading this posting, than you have verified your e-mail and are now a part of Harbour Pointe Blog ( Club News at Harbour Pointe ) E-mail alert system.We have brought you aboard so as to help keep you abreast on whats going on at Harbour Pointe, ie. mens' club tournaments, results, money list, Rhodes Cup standings, course maintenance and Pro Shop news. Each posting will show up in your e-mail as well as the blog site. You can click on the web site and go right from the e-mail to the blog site.We'll be able to keep you up to date with in twenty four hour of any info the pro shop needs you to know. I hope this will be of great help to all you to stay informed. If you got this alert and you're not a member any more, please take time and go to the blog site to see what you're missing at Harbour Pointe. We've made a lot of changes and would love to have you back. Thank you for your time Big D aka Don Rashell Blog author and mens' club VP.
If you're reading this posting, than you have verified your e-mail and are now a part of Harbour Pointe Blog ( Club News at Harbour Pointe ) E-mail alert system.We have brought you aboard so as to help keep you abreast on whats going on at Harbour Pointe, ie. mens' club tournaments, results, money list, Rhodes Cup standings, course maintenance and Pro Shop news. Each posting will show up in your e-mail as well as the blog site. You can click on the web site and go right from the e-mail to the blog site.We'll be able to keep you up to date with in twenty four hour of any info the pro shop needs you to know. I hope this will be of great help to all you to stay informed. If you got this alert and you're not a member any more, please take time and go to the blog site to see what you're missing at Harbour Pointe. We've made a lot of changes and would love to have you back. Thank you for your time Big D aka Don Rashell Blog author and mens' club VP.
Wednesday, May 18, 2011
Spring Field Day and Wed Nite Results
Here are the results from the Spring Field Day and Last Wed Nite.
SPRING FIELD DAY (CO-CLUB)
MAY 7, 2011
0-7 DIVISION
GROSS
T1 BRIAN CONN 72 $40 STEVE ERICKSON 72 $40
NET
1 BOB MATHEWS 69 $80 T2 ROB TOWNSEND 71 $55
ERIC MORRIS 71 $55
8-11 DIVISION
GROSS
1 PAUL RICHTER 76 $80
NET
1 NILS BAJCZUK 68 $80 T2 GRANT LARSEN 70 $55
TIM FISCHER 70 $55
12-UP DIVISION
GROSS
1 GARY TANGEN 79 $80
NET
1 STEVE MORENO 69 $80 2 TIM BLAKE 71 $60
3 SCOTT SANDVIG 71 $40
2 MAN BEST BALL (TEAM $$)
T1 RICHTER-THERET 61 $55 MATHEWS-BAJCZUK 61 $55
T3 DELFS-TANGEN 63 $10 LAUERMAN-MONACO 63 $10
McDONALD-CONN 63 $10
KP CONTEST (WINNERS REC’V $10 ON CR. BK)
CLOSEST TO #3: DAVID MOERS 4’2”
CLOSEST TO #7: SCOTT WEAVER 4’0”
CLOSEST TO #12: OSCAR SPURLIN 14”
CLOSEST TO #16: STEVE ERICKSON 3’8”
LONG PUTT MADE #9:RON MONACO 19’8”
LONG DRIVE #10: BRIAN CONN
LONG DRIVE #18: CASEY DUNN
WEDNESDAY NIGHT 2 MAN ODD-EVEN ALL NET
MAY 11, 2011
1 MATHERLY-MCCALMON 34 $70 tm 2 LAUERMAN-TAYLOR 36 $60
T3 MCNEELY-RITTER 37 $20 DUGOVICH-DENNIS 37 $20
TANGEN-EDWARDS 37 $20 SWINK-NAGEL 37 $20
18 HOLE POT GAME
1 TANGEN-EDWARDS 74 $50 tm 2 LAUERMAN-TAYLOR 76 $40
GROSS SKINS
MARK MCCALMON HOLE-11 (3) $70
CHIP GRIMES HOLE-16 (2) $70
NET SKINS PUSH TO NEXT WEEK OF $120
DEUCE POT
MARK LANGLOIS HOLE-12 $25
MARK MCCALMON HOLE-12 $25
SZILARD ZOMBOR HOLE-12 $25
CHIP GRIMES HOLE-16 $40
TOM ELLIOTT HOLE-16 $40
SPRING FIELD DAY (CO-CLUB)
MAY 7, 2011
0-7 DIVISION
GROSS
T1 BRIAN CONN 72 $40 STEVE ERICKSON 72 $40
NET
1 BOB MATHEWS 69 $80 T2 ROB TOWNSEND 71 $55
ERIC MORRIS 71 $55
8-11 DIVISION
GROSS
1 PAUL RICHTER 76 $80
NET
1 NILS BAJCZUK 68 $80 T2 GRANT LARSEN 70 $55
TIM FISCHER 70 $55
12-UP DIVISION
GROSS
1 GARY TANGEN 79 $80
NET
1 STEVE MORENO 69 $80 2 TIM BLAKE 71 $60
3 SCOTT SANDVIG 71 $40
2 MAN BEST BALL (TEAM $$)
T1 RICHTER-THERET 61 $55 MATHEWS-BAJCZUK 61 $55
T3 DELFS-TANGEN 63 $10 LAUERMAN-MONACO 63 $10
McDONALD-CONN 63 $10
KP CONTEST (WINNERS REC’V $10 ON CR. BK)
CLOSEST TO #3: DAVID MOERS 4’2”
CLOSEST TO #7: SCOTT WEAVER 4’0”
CLOSEST TO #12: OSCAR SPURLIN 14”
CLOSEST TO #16: STEVE ERICKSON 3’8”
LONG PUTT MADE #9:RON MONACO 19’8”
LONG DRIVE #10: BRIAN CONN
LONG DRIVE #18: CASEY DUNN
WEDNESDAY NIGHT 2 MAN ODD-EVEN ALL NET
MAY 11, 2011
1 MATHERLY-MCCALMON 34 $70 tm 2 LAUERMAN-TAYLOR 36 $60
T3 MCNEELY-RITTER 37 $20 DUGOVICH-DENNIS 37 $20
TANGEN-EDWARDS 37 $20 SWINK-NAGEL 37 $20
18 HOLE POT GAME
1 TANGEN-EDWARDS 74 $50 tm 2 LAUERMAN-TAYLOR 76 $40
GROSS SKINS
MARK MCCALMON HOLE-11 (3) $70
CHIP GRIMES HOLE-16 (2) $70
NET SKINS PUSH TO NEXT WEEK OF $120
DEUCE POT
MARK LANGLOIS HOLE-12 $25
MARK MCCALMON HOLE-12 $25
SZILARD ZOMBOR HOLE-12 $25
CHIP GRIMES HOLE-16 $40
TOM ELLIOTT HOLE-16 $40
Sunday, May 15, 2011
Handicap Change for Wed Nite Play
Hi Guys.
Based on our last meeting and the data provided by Walker, here is the message I sent to all concerned members.
I hope it represents our position well. Your feedback is welcomed and appreciated.
We had our HPMC Board Meeting on Monday, 5/9. Walker Martin, who chairs the Handicap Committtee, provided the data I requested in order to take the guesswork out of the Tournament Handicap debate. A breakdown follows. If you would like additional data, I can probably glean it from the report he furnished. Walker is also cc'd here if you would like to discuss with him. The USGA Handicaps are from 5/1/11 and the Tournament Handicaps are through 4/26/11.
Here are the raw stats:
There are 197 players currently tracking.
127/197 (64.5%) have a T-handicap that is the same or higher than their USGA (EZLinks).
70/197 (35.5%) have a T-handicap below their USGA:
33/197 (16.8%) have a T-handicap that is lower by 1.0 or less:
17/197 (8.6%) are 0-0.50 lower
16/197 (8.1%) are .60-1.0 lower
37/197 (18.8%) have a T-handicap more than 1.0 below their USGA:
21/197 (10.7%) are 1.1-2.0 lower
12/197 (6.1%) are 2.1-3.0 lower
4/197 (2.0%) are more than 3.0 lower (only 1 over 3.9)
T-handicaps are an average of the lowest 6 out of the last 12 tournament scores (1st/Last Wednesdays, and yellow-card events) from 2009-present. Only 9 players have a T-handicap more than 1.0 below their USGA based on fewer than 12 events to draw from.
To address the fact that T-handicaps are harder to influence and less representative of a player's current trend, we discussed allowing rounds played with a lower T-handicap to be posted as Tournament scores. This is not allowed by the USGA. However, using our current system of playing with the lesser of one's 2 handicaps, 81.2% (160/197) of our members play on Wednesdays within 1.0 stroke of their USGA, 91.9% (181/197) play within 2 strokes, and 98.0% (193/197) play within 3 strokes.
Since there is so little difference for the vast majority of members, and since the formats often blur the effects of an individual player's handicap, we decided we could return to using only the USGA (EZLinks) handicaps on Wednesdays with no material affect on the competitions. Thus, we have dispensed with T-handicaps on Wednesdays. I hope that comes as good news.
The flip side is that the prevailing accuracy of the T-handicaps supports their use in tournaments, and they will be properly influenced by the scores posted. There continues to be an appeal process for players who feel unfairly burdened by their lower T-handicap in these events, and the relatively few players facing more than a 2 stroke deduction (16/197 - 8.1%) makes it feasible to address appeals on an individual basis (the USGA recommends a 3.0 stroke maximum tolerance).
In any system, there are bound to be individual cases that are less well-served than the majority. My personal opinion is that the Tournament Handicap system is working for HPMC. The failsafe is the appeal process which we encourage members to pursue. For example, one golfer with a T-handicap 3.3 strokes below his USGA has been granted a compromise based on illness that affected his recent trend. One could also make the case that a 2.0 stroke differential impacts a single-digit player more than it affects a high handicapper, so there are grey areas that can only be addressed on an individul basis.
This is not intended as the final word on the subject, just a baseline to frame further discussion. Let's continue the discussion in the spirit of common support of what we are trying to accomplish. There are certainly ways to tweak the system without abandoning it. For example, is using the lowest 6 of the last 12 tournament scores the right formula? I hope we can count on your support of HPMC with the knowledge that the Board will continue to listen and respond to member concerns.
Best Regards,
Scott Weaver - President, Harbour Pointe Men's Club
After reading this message from the Prez,I hope it helps everybody understand Tournament Handicap verses Course Handicap, we really are trying to play on a level field. Also we'll be checking each week to see that everyone is posting scores for Wed Nite play.If you don't post you will be notified. You have 48hours to post after each Wed Nite play.
Now on another note the Mukilteo Boys and Girls club is asking the men's club to support their fund
drive by pledging money for the number holes a few selected guys will play in 6 hours. Pledge sheet are at Pro shop and Bar, please help make this a success. Next, it's time to get signed up for the member- member on June 11 &12, we need 60, two man teams, don't get stuck on the alternate list, get signed up now!!!!!!!!!
.
Based on our last meeting and the data provided by Walker, here is the message I sent to all concerned members.
I hope it represents our position well. Your feedback is welcomed and appreciated.
We had our HPMC Board Meeting on Monday, 5/9. Walker Martin, who chairs the Handicap Committtee, provided the data I requested in order to take the guesswork out of the Tournament Handicap debate. A breakdown follows. If you would like additional data, I can probably glean it from the report he furnished. Walker is also cc'd here if you would like to discuss with him. The USGA Handicaps are from 5/1/11 and the Tournament Handicaps are through 4/26/11.
Here are the raw stats:
There are 197 players currently tracking.
127/197 (64.5%) have a T-handicap that is the same or higher than their USGA (EZLinks).
70/197 (35.5%) have a T-handicap below their USGA:
33/197 (16.8%) have a T-handicap that is lower by 1.0 or less:
17/197 (8.6%) are 0-0.50 lower
16/197 (8.1%) are .60-1.0 lower
37/197 (18.8%) have a T-handicap more than 1.0 below their USGA:
21/197 (10.7%) are 1.1-2.0 lower
12/197 (6.1%) are 2.1-3.0 lower
4/197 (2.0%) are more than 3.0 lower (only 1 over 3.9)
T-handicaps are an average of the lowest 6 out of the last 12 tournament scores (1st/Last Wednesdays, and yellow-card events) from 2009-present. Only 9 players have a T-handicap more than 1.0 below their USGA based on fewer than 12 events to draw from.
To address the fact that T-handicaps are harder to influence and less representative of a player's current trend, we discussed allowing rounds played with a lower T-handicap to be posted as Tournament scores. This is not allowed by the USGA. However, using our current system of playing with the lesser of one's 2 handicaps, 81.2% (160/197) of our members play on Wednesdays within 1.0 stroke of their USGA, 91.9% (181/197) play within 2 strokes, and 98.0% (193/197) play within 3 strokes.
Since there is so little difference for the vast majority of members, and since the formats often blur the effects of an individual player's handicap, we decided we could return to using only the USGA (EZLinks) handicaps on Wednesdays with no material affect on the competitions. Thus, we have dispensed with T-handicaps on Wednesdays. I hope that comes as good news.
The flip side is that the prevailing accuracy of the T-handicaps supports their use in tournaments, and they will be properly influenced by the scores posted. There continues to be an appeal process for players who feel unfairly burdened by their lower T-handicap in these events, and the relatively few players facing more than a 2 stroke deduction (16/197 - 8.1%) makes it feasible to address appeals on an individual basis (the USGA recommends a 3.0 stroke maximum tolerance).
In any system, there are bound to be individual cases that are less well-served than the majority. My personal opinion is that the Tournament Handicap system is working for HPMC. The failsafe is the appeal process which we encourage members to pursue. For example, one golfer with a T-handicap 3.3 strokes below his USGA has been granted a compromise based on illness that affected his recent trend. One could also make the case that a 2.0 stroke differential impacts a single-digit player more than it affects a high handicapper, so there are grey areas that can only be addressed on an individul basis.
This is not intended as the final word on the subject, just a baseline to frame further discussion. Let's continue the discussion in the spirit of common support of what we are trying to accomplish. There are certainly ways to tweak the system without abandoning it. For example, is using the lowest 6 of the last 12 tournament scores the right formula? I hope we can count on your support of HPMC with the knowledge that the Board will continue to listen and respond to member concerns.
Best Regards,
Scott Weaver - President, Harbour Pointe Men's Club
After reading this message from the Prez,I hope it helps everybody understand Tournament Handicap verses Course Handicap, we really are trying to play on a level field. Also we'll be checking each week to see that everyone is posting scores for Wed Nite play.If you don't post you will be notified. You have 48hours to post after each Wed Nite play.
Now on another note the Mukilteo Boys and Girls club is asking the men's club to support their fund
drive by pledging money for the number holes a few selected guys will play in 6 hours. Pledge sheet are at Pro shop and Bar, please help make this a success. Next, it's time to get signed up for the member- member on June 11 &12, we need 60, two man teams, don't get stuck on the alternate list, get signed up now!!!!!!!!!
.
Friday, May 6, 2011
Follow Blog Posting By E-Mail test posting
Hi Johnny Thanks for helping me on this new e-mail setting for the Blog postings. I think this will really help everybody become more aware what's going on at Harbour Pointe. John send me a e-mail if this works for you, then we'll talk more on Monday nite. For those of you who read this posting and want to get aboard, just submit your e-mail on left side of blog and you'll be alerted the next day to any new postings. Don't forget tomorrow the 7th is the Spring Field Tournament, tee times, with double Rhodes Cup points. Have a great round.
Wednesday, May 4, 2011
Blog E-Mail Reminder
Just a reminder guys and gals who read this blog, that you can be notified by e-mail, that a posting has been made.Just follow the posting of April 28th and submit your e-mail address, and you get the latest posting in your mail . I hope this will help a lot of you guys who don't check the blog out on a regular basis. Hope you enjoy the latest pic slide show, posted a couple days ago. Have a nice round. Big D
Tuesday, May 3, 2011
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